Coming to IDC School???
I don't understand how they can hold new students to brand new CANTRAC requirements that started 01 JAN 2007 when the student applied and was ACCEPTED to IDC school under the old CANTRAC requirements of 2006. I completely agree with the new requirements of having a minimum of 60 hours of patient sick-call time and being in bodyfat/weight standards but to hold students to new standards which were not in force when they applied and accepted and expecting them to get letters and documentation and do NKO courses AFTER they have reported to IDC school is not in the best interests of the student
Ron Rutherford
HMCS(SW) IDC
SFIDC Class-15 JAN 1995
Ron,
Pulled the words out of my mouth. HM1, thanks for the gouge and to play it "safe", I have passed this on to prospective students here in Camp Pen....not so much the BF but the new CANTRAC items.
HMCS(FMF) Insigne
P.S. Ever since I was an HM3, I have dreamed of getting orders to Europe. My PRD is OCT'08, keep me in mind in case you have a "hard" time finding a replacement
Yuck! That is very unpleasent (cold) impression of the IDC school house. My orders were recently cut to attend in SFIDC School in August. It's hard to believe that after waiting a significant portion of my Navy Career just for the oppertunity to attend this course and packing all my belongings in my truck and traveling cross-country,that I will be greeted by shipmates that will boot me in a seconds notice. I mailed my package and the detailer accepted it! They have me now. If they boot me for anything other than academic (not gonna happen), diciplinary (not gonna happen), or physical readiness(definitely not gonna happen) reasons, their going to have to drag me out by my feet. Thanks for the heads-up though HM1. If they are going to be that strict about it, I hope that they would atleast mail out some type of notice stating that you must report with following items in hand or stand-by to be booted back to the fleet.
HM2(FMF) Denson
They are getting strict at the schoolhouse, but for very good reasons. The philosophy at the schoolhouse is to get the best IDCs out into the fleet. Recently, there have been problems with IDCs in the fleet, resulting in some being relieved. The schoolhouse is using the CANTRAC as one of the many ways to ensure that the Sailors they training are the best of the best. Just because your slotted for school and the detailer said your "good to go," doesn't mean you are. All I can say HM2, is to double check your CANTRAC requirements and get all the NKO courses done and the sickcall screener course. If you have any questions or concerns about what's on the CANTRAC, give the schoolhouse a call and talk to an IDC instructor. If you show up squared away, then you won't have anything to worry about. I'm not saying that I'm happy about the requirements, as I was one of those guys that almost found myself booted from school, but, there is a CANTRAC and that is what they have out to let the students know the prerequ's for school. If it's not on the CANTRAC, then you don't need to worry about it. See you in August.
HM1(SW/AW)Howell
For those of us attending IDC school later this year... I just called and spoke with HMC Frausto. The new CANTRAC will be updated and available for viewing hopefully within the week. This should give us time to prepare prior to checking on board in San Diego. The biggest change will be when you received the sick call hours or took the sick call screeners course. It must now be done within a year of coming to IDC school. Otherwise, the NKO info on courses will be on the cantrac very soon.
DocTex (AW/SW)
I work in the military med/sick call dept of my clinic. I got a boat-load of patient contact hours. I know I'm probably NUC'in this a bit, but what exactly does "documented sick-call hours" mean? Exactly how official of a document does this have to be? Can the IDC or Senior FS sign it off? Does it have to be from the CO as an Official Letter?
Thanks,
HM2 (FMF) BERNARD DENSON
For my sick call hours, my HMCS wrote me a letter stating how many sickcall hours and how I performed them. They want to know what type of setting (ship, clinic, etc) and how many hours you performed. The letter doesn't have to be on official letterhead. It's really a simple letter, you could even draft it up yourself and have your IDC verify and sign the letter. Let me know if you have any more questions.
I was in the class behind the class where these problems occured. Believe me the school house is looking after the best interests of you. It might seem harsh, but compared to being an IDC who is one in name only and treated worse than a junior corpmen, it is worth it. I have met the indiviual and it is not a good scenario all the way around. If you come out to Camp LeJeune with your orders, let me know. It's not bad here as one, deployments abound!! Good luck to ya.
I just wanted to post this topic to give some information to all prospective IDC students out there. I just classed up this week and the schoolhouse is getting very serious about CANTRAAC requirements and being in physical standards. If you show up to IDC school without the proper CANTRAAC requirements (i.e., NKO courses, time in rate, documented sickcall hours/sickcall screener course) you will be disenrolled. If you show up out of physical standards, you are automatically disenrolled, and the staff will not budge. I'm just relaying this information to all of my shipmates so you can come prepared if you are coming to IDC school. If the detailer told you not to worry about the NKO courses, or the sickcall screener course, or told you that you'll be put on mando PT when you show up for school, that's not true anymore, although it used to be. We are the first class of the new year and the new rules have been strictly enforced. Please, please, please, review your IDC package before you check-in to school to ensure you meet CANTRAAC requirements, it will save a lot of hassle and heartache. There have already been a few students in my class who were disenrolled on the first day because certain requirements were not meant. These are not rumors, I assure you, take these warnings to heart. You don't want to show up for school and then check out a few days later and possibly end up in someplace you really don't want to be. If anybody has any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me.
HM1(SW/AW)Howell